{"id":29400,"date":"2016-11-28T00:01:03","date_gmt":"2016-11-28T08:01:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/cartoonresearch.com\/?p=29400"},"modified":"2016-11-22T22:57:41","modified_gmt":"2016-11-23T06:57:41","slug":"more-fleischer-needle-drop-and-terrytoon-notes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cartoonresearch.com\/index.php\/more-fleischer-needle-drop-and-terrytoon-notes\/","title":{"rendered":"More Fleischer Needle Drop &#8211; and Terrytoon Notes"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><center><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Ub9Oj4LaSUs\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/center><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cartoonresearch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Unknown.jpeg\" alt=\"Unknown\" width=\"135\" height=\"180\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-29405\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cartoonresearch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Unknown.jpeg 135w, https:\/\/cartoonresearch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Unknown-112x150.jpeg 112w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 135px) 100vw, 135px\" \/>Yet another Fleischer cartoon using a &#8220;needle-drop&#8221;. It&#8217;s a Screen Song, <em>Just A Gigolo<\/em>, and its opening scenes (set in a cabaret) use a sped-up version of <a TARGET=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=e8PjFGg4Pmc\">The Scat Song<\/a> by Baron Lee and his Blue Rhythm Band.  <\/p>\n<p>And here&#8217;s an interesting speculation. <\/p>\n<p>It is entirely possible that we&#8217;ve narrowed it down to two of several issues.  Only on the Melotone and Perfect issues is &#8220;The Scat Song&#8221; coupled with &#8220;Heat Waves&#8221;, which appeared in <em>Betty Boop&#8217;s Penthouse<\/em>.  <\/p>\n<p>Now, we&#8217;ve seen it happen that Fleischer&#8217;s cats used both sides of a given record&#8211;the Edidie Peabody items, and the coupling by Red Pepper Sam.   If this here is another such case, it signifies a &#8220;waste not want not&#8221; attitude&#8211;why send some inbetweener up to Harlem to get records that they already have?   <\/p>\n<hr style=\"color: #000000; background-color: #000000; height: 2px; border: none;\" \/>\n<p>Found another one, and it uses another Billy Costello item for a brief needle-drop.<\/p>\n<p><center><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/YRkdQTq_d88\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/center><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s <em>Boo Boo Theme Song<\/em>, and it uses (at 2:31) the <a TARGET=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=wvJkhbBtPMk\">Red Pepper Sam version of &#8220;Dinah&#8221;<\/a>&#8211;at least one chorus of it.  <\/p>\n<p>The print that is on YT&#8211;a beat-up old NTA print (<em>above<\/em>)&#8211;is shorn of the section featuring The Funnyboners. Part of that section is on YT as well&#8211;but not all of it, and not the transitions from cartoon to live-action.  <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Dinah&#8221; was the original flip side of &#8220;Nobody&#8217;s Sweetheart&#8221;, which was used in <em>Betty Boop, M.D.<\/em><\/p>\n<hr style=\"color: #000000; background-color: #000000; height: 2px; border: none;\" \/>\n<p><strong><u>Terrytoon Notes<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/cartoonresearch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/roy-halee-label.jpg\" rel=\"prettyphoto[29400]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cartoonresearch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/roy-halee-label-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"roy-halee-label\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-29414\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cartoonresearch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/roy-halee-label-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cartoonresearch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/roy-halee-label-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/cartoonresearch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/roy-halee-label-50x50.jpg 50w, https:\/\/cartoonresearch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/roy-halee-label.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>Musings on Roy Halee<\/strong><br \/>\nI am a little bit familiar with the career of Roy Halee.  <\/p>\n<p>The earliest evidence of him I know is on a 1941 album of cowboy songs by Texas Jim Robertson, a NYC-based cowboy singer.  Most of this artist&#8217;s discs appeared on Bluebird, but this album was done for Victor. <\/p>\n<p>On this album, Robertson is aided and abetted by a male quartet.   The two tenors in this quartet are Roy Halee and Walter Scanlan&#8211;the latter a veteran of the recording scene who goes back to 1909, when he first recorded under his real name of Walter Van Brunt.   <\/p>\n<p>Further, Halee was the singing voice of Mighty Mouse, and thus possessed a sterling tenor voice.  I find it a little hard to believe that he would risk his tenor voice by doing Heckle &#038; Jeckle later on &#8211; especially the Durante-rough voice of Heckle. (The British-inflected tones of Jeckle would be less of a strain on Halee&#8217;s pipes, if it is he.)<\/p>\n<p>The only voices credited on two Terrytoon LPs I have are Tom Morrison and Roy Halee.  Morrison&#8217;s natural voice was baritone, as heard narrating many &#8220;Mighty Mouse&#8221; cartoons. (He did MM&#8217;s speaking voice in commercials for <em>Colgate Dental Cream<\/em> and in the opening of &#8220;Mighty Mouse Playhouse&#8221; &#8211; though on MMP, that voice sounds more like a tenor, although not like Halee&#8217;s singing voice.)<\/p>\n<p>I am not so sure about Halee doing Heckle or Jeckle in the theatrical shorts (with the exception of 1960s cartoons like <em>Sappy New Year<\/em> and <em>Messed-Up Movie Makers<\/em>). My misgivings are not based on the sounds heard, but rather on what strikes me as common sense. <\/p>\n<p>Roy Halee was a rich-voiced tenor, and just the right voice for the singing of Mighty Mouse.  It strikes me that Halee would have been proud of his tenor voice, and would not want to risk it doing the roughhouse cadences of Heckle. As a singer myself, I can understand this attitude.   <\/p>\n<p><center><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/3-eYn7K5eXQ\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/center><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<hr style=\"color: #000000; background-color: #000000; height: 2px; border: none;\" \/>\n<p><strong>The Terrytoons Closing Door Logo<\/strong><\/p>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cartoonresearch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Terrytoons-closing-door-logo.jpg\" alt=\"Terrytoons-closing-door-logo\" width=\"600\" height=\"140\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-29409\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cartoonresearch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Terrytoons-closing-door-logo.jpg 600w, https:\/\/cartoonresearch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Terrytoons-closing-door-logo-300x70.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cartoonresearch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Terrytoons-closing-door-logo-150x35.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Which reminds me. . . I&#8217;ve been looking on a site called <a href=\"http:\/\/www.closinglogos.com\/page\/Terrytoons\">closinglogos.com<\/a>.   They&#8217;re a wiki dealing with studio logos.  <\/p>\n<p>    Their post for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.closinglogos.com\/page\/Terrytoons\">Terrytoons<\/a> is not really complete.  They do bring up the &#8220;dressing room door&#8221; logo found on Terrytoons series of the 1950&#8217;s and 1960&#8217;s&#8211;but they don&#8217;t mention that was also used on the syndicated &#8220;Farmer Al Falfa Show&#8221;.  <\/p>\n<p>Further, they don&#8217;t mention that, when the logo was first used, its soundtrack was a slamming door, and a descending blast on a penny-whistle.  This was used on &#8220;MIghty Mouse Playhouse&#8221; until the end of 1959, when somebody decided to yank a lick from the soundtrack of an existing cartoon, and put it over the slamming door. <\/p>\n<p>A different lick was lifted for the 1960-61 season of &#8220;The Heckle and Jeckle Cartoon Show&#8221;. Later, a third lick was used for &#8220;Mighty Mouse Playhouse&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>For &#8220;The Deputy Dawg Show&#8221;, a special lick was created for the same basic footage, done by the four-piece combo that provided the music for all &#8220;Deputy Dawg&#8221; cartoons.   <\/p>\n<p>The door-slam logo was used on &#8220;MMP&#8221; until the end of the 1965-66 season.  It also appeared on the H&#038;J series on CBS that same season, with the pennywhistle.   And, if memory serves, the pennywhistle returned for the 1971-72 H&#038;J run on NBC.<\/p>\n<p><center><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/zpu8NFOp43Q\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/center><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I am a little bit familiar with the career of Roy Halee.  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