{"id":11792,"date":"2014-06-19T00:20:36","date_gmt":"2014-06-19T07:20:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/cartoonresearch.com\/?p=11792"},"modified":"2014-06-19T00:20:36","modified_gmt":"2014-06-19T07:20:36","slug":"collecting-8mm","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cartoonresearch.com\/index.php\/collecting-8mm\/","title":{"rendered":"Collecting 8mm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A particularly busy week here at the Thunderbean HQ, full of news. More on SOME of this news next week, as well as some new transfers.<\/p>\n<p>But for now, another romp down memory lane. The topic for this week is: What do we all want and why, anyway??!?!<\/p>\n<p>When I was a kid, I remember really wanted the &#8216;Polavision&#8217; Camera and Projector I saw advertised. You could shoot super 8 film, and then rewind the film and play it- instantly! <\/p>\n<p>Now, of course, as a 9 year old in 1977, there wasn&#8217;t such  thing as &#8216;taping&#8217; cartoons on TV, so when I saw this new technology, I was astonished. I have dreams of taping <a TARGET=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=EbC_O0nqbTs\"><em>Toyland Premiere<\/em><\/a> (1934) when it ran on rare occasion between the other cartoons that were part of the Woody Woodpecker show. To me, the whole purpose of getting the camera wasn&#8217;t to make my own films, it was to somehow have that ONE film, filming it with that Polaroid System. Considering what I do these days, maybe, in some ways, we still are who we are through and through. I really wouldn&#8217;t have been able to tell you this would be some kind of life obsession, to find that rare film, whatever it is.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s <a TARGET=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/customerthink.com\/polavision_polaroids_disruptive_innovation_failure\/\">an article about &#8216;Polavision&#8217;<\/a> and it&#8217;s failure (it showed up at the dawn of consumer VHS and Beta video). And here&#8217;s a youtube video on how to take the film out of a Polavision cartridge.<\/p>\n<p><center><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/AfFj3dEw_nI?rel=0\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/center><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cartoonresearch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/tom-jerry-super-8.jpg\" alt=\"tom-jerry-super-8\" width=\"200\" height=\"256\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-11801\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cartoonresearch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/tom-jerry-super-8.jpg 200w, https:\/\/cartoonresearch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/tom-jerry-super-8-117x150.jpg 117w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/>So, throughout my early years of collecting films, there were films that I very clearly just wanted to see, and others that I wanted a copy of.  I&#8217;ve talked a little about some of the collector magazines that finally gave me a window into the film collecting world. There were ads for many of the super 8 and 16mm film companies that sold mostly public domain films. Many of these companies only had a classified ad at the back for a free catalog. From these ads, I got catalogs from L\/C Films,  Festival Films, Blackhawk, Thunderbird Films, Cantaberry Films, Red Fox Films and others.<\/p>\n<p>L\/C films was one of the coolest; they sold USED super 8mm films; a new list every month or so. I was enthralled! I bought all sorts of incredible things from them and finally got to see so many films I thought I never would, all in Super 8.  I also was able to buy some films I had always wanted, including <em>Babes in Toyland<\/em> (with Laurel and Hardy), prints of Van Beuren and early silent cartoons, and even Hoppity goes to Town and Gulliver&#8217;s Travels.  L\/C films turned into Pepperland Records, then Pepperland Music. They&#8217;re still in business I think <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pepperlandmusic.com\/pepperland.html\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s an <a TARGET=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.reelclassicdvd.com\/BlackhawkFilms.htm\">article on Blackhawk Films<\/a>, with some catalogs too!<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cartoonresearch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/felix-cool-cat.jpg\" alt=\"felix-cool-cat\" width=\"225\" height=\"216\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-11800\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cartoonresearch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/felix-cool-cat.jpg 225w, https:\/\/cartoonresearch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/felix-cool-cat-150x144.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/>As time progressed and I went on to discovering that you could find a LOT more in 16mm, my interest in super 8 faded. I think a lot of folks still have fondness for Super 8 films; on occasion I&#8217;ll still find one at a film show and pick it up. I recently finally got a replacement print of the Ken Films cutdown of &#8216;Flaming Guns&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>Many of the things I&#8217;ve really wanted have shown up, but isn&#8217;t it funny how the quest leads you deeper into the woods the more you look? I&#8217;ve seen other people&#8217;s lists, and what is funny is that these days nearly ALL of us are looking for the rarest of the rare, but not all the SAME rarest of the rare. There&#8217;s still so many things that have just not show up.  I&#8217;m at the point where certain REALLY rare things are the most interesting to me, or being able to bring a whole series back if possible. Sometimes the road to do this sort of thing is really bumpy, but, in my case at least, it&#8217;s very much related to that Polavision Projector above. <\/p>\n<p>Here are some cartoons from super 8mm prints:<\/p>\n<p>A little music video, put together from what appears to be a Russian cartoon:<\/p>\n<p><center><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/tlc7wnSBF0s?rel=0\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/center><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>A print of Tom and Jerry in <em>Mouse Trouble<\/em>, sadly turning red:<\/p>\n<p><center><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/pEEURG6ca0I?rel=0\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/center><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>\u2026a youtube favorite; someone showing off their collection. I was pretty charmed by this. It reminds me how much I loved the tactile nature of films:<\/p>\n<p><center><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/QudVqmVHxug?rel=0\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/center><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s a slick presentation of one collector&#8217;s collection, with awesome music!<\/p>\n<p><center><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/B0Vj-vXEda4?rel=0\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/center><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>\u2026 and a cool collection of boxes!<\/p>\n<p><center><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/-0WpwL7s60Y?rel=0\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/center><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>And, since Felix seems to be in the news, here&#8217;s an 8mm print of <em>Felix in Hollywood<\/em>, where his new residence is, at least in a intellectual property sort of way:<\/p>\n<p><center><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Cm2sjNraQQQ?rel=0\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/center><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Since I get to do this, I&#8217;m inviting you to as well.  Tell a story about how a piece of the past has led to your interest in animated films, or maybe a memory of a quest to see a particular thing&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A particularly busy week here at the Thunderbean HQ, full of news. More on SOME of this news next week, as well as some new transfers. 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